Sunday, June 04, 2006

It's all yours

The QL thread seemed like a good idea, but obviously all you (i.e. random AIs) wanted to do was discuss Carl's addiction, which you know nothing about and which isn't any of your business, and try to find out what his paypal account is so you can give him money, which he doesn't want. My recommendation that you take the meta discussions to the previous thread, which nobody cared about, resulted in another recommendation, that you at least post a QL along with the meta comment, which you also didn't care about. That pissed me off to the point where I eventually deleted all meta comments from that thread. Please don't whine about that, you had your chance.

To prevent incidents of that kind in the future -- because unless Plastic comes back up soon, I plan to post a real writeup and let people have a real discussion, which I would like to be wholly uncluttered by posts about Carl's moral character and financial situation -- I hereby devote this thread to precisely that: Carl's drug addiction and Palpal account. Please finish the subject once and for all.

Have a blast.

99 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fascist!

2:34 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl's condition doesn't concern me in the least. The condition of the web site is what concerns me. As someone who has thrown a good bit of money towards seeing to it that carl has the resources to continue to operate Plastic, I feel betrayed not so much by the fact that the site was taken down for maintenance but by the fact that carl, for whatever reason, opted to do so without informing those of us who have stood by him as to what was happening. As a matter of fact, when he finally surfaced to discuss what happened, he was openly contemptuous and dismissive of those who asked him what had happened. Some pal and some community he wanted to build.

I have sent my last dime to carl (nice to see he doesn't need the money anyhow despite his admitting to being broke) and even when the site comes back, I'll have nothing more to do with it. No, I'm not doing this to make some sort of grand statement or to form some sort of movement. Just giving my two cents.

2:56 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did someone save the logs of that chat? Where are they posted?

What is the f'n problem that Carl could not post some kind of information about what the problem was? How hard would that have been? (not very)

People are floating around waiting for something to happen. For some of us, it's starting to feel like waiting for a ransom note. "Send bag of money and 1000 thank-you notes to Carl or the website DIES!"

I agree with the other anonymous about the attitude of this whole affair. It's not kosher to leave the readers hanging about what's going to happen. If you don't want to do it any more, just say so. Spare the audience the suspenseful silence.

Did some of the regulars piss him off? That really doesn't account for all the other regulars, newbies, and lurkers who frequent the site. Why piss on all the rest as well?

I hoep everything is okay, Carl.

3:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the other posting:

The issue seems to be this: The plastic servers are no longer allowed to be located in the office where they were located. So Carl is moving them and he needs some help moving them and re-setting them up, if you happen to be in No Cali and can offer technical support. The catch is that the offices can't be opened except during normal business hours.

3:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So is that all this is?

3:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For some of us, it's starting to feel like waiting for a ransom note. "Send bag of money and 1000 thank-you notes to Carl or the website DIES!"

Carl doesn't want to take your money. He specifically said so when he was not sure he could get it back up according to expectations.

Use his site, but when something goes wrong, make sure to blame him. He and his friends are trying. If you can't hang around, hey I understand. And if you choose to come back, then you will always be welcome.

3:49 PM

 
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3:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2:56 PM:

Carl is Plastic. If you don't care about carl, shut the fuck up. Go start your own site and quit bothering those of us who care about carl and want to help him get his act together. If the choice is between carl being together and Plastic being together, I'd rather see carl together, but I think that getting Plastic together will help carl get himself together, so everyone benefits.

Buhbye. No one cares what you think about Plastic, no one cares if you put money into it, no one even believes that you did.

4:54 PM

 
Anonymous suckerpunch said...

The difference between Plasticians, this blog, and the people poasting anonymously here; Plasticians/Plastic is a community, where as this site is speculative wankery.

Le Plastic est mort, vive le Plastic!

5:23 PM

 
Anonymous quirinus said...

"Use his site, but when something goes wrong, make sure to blame him. He and his friends are trying."

"Carl is Plastic. If you don't care about carl, shut the fuck up. Go start your own site and quit bothering those of us who care about carl and want to help him get his act together. "

FYI: I am the third and fifth anonymous posts in this comment list.

I don't blame Carl. I just want to know what the hell is going on. I had to poke around to find this site. I have been waiting for some kind of 'official' post or FAQ from Carl about what happened (personal or otherwise) that brought the site down, what he may or may not be doing about it, or if this will be fixed at all. Couldn't someone (like the person who made this blog) conveniently post a verified note from Carl? Maybe a temporary web page that says "All done. No more for me. Your pal, Carl" News travels fast in the internet.. We all (including myself) would have gotten it.

I obviously want to keep reading Platic. Just give me some kind of indication if I should stop looking or not.

I hope you are well, Carl.

5:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous 4:54pm

That's the typical answer dispensed by all the carl idolators and plastic addicts. "Waah, you don't care about carl. You don't love the same web site I do. So STFU." Yes, this completely mature attitude is what plastic thrives on and the reason it has become a den of inbred morons like you.

8:16 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make your own web site, Anonymous 4:54pm

8:56 PM

 
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9:42 PM

 
Blogger Anonymous Idiot said...

Anonymous 4:54 PM:

Apart from the points that have been made by other posters already, in this thread and others (that basically all boil down to: would it have been so hard to post a note?) the thing is this: Carl as an individual and his personality quirks and whatever is none of your business, unless Carl wants it to be any of your business, which he doesn't. That, however, doesn't mean Plastic isn't any of our business. This blog is here so people can talk about Plastic -- what's wrong and when it might be coming back up, if ever -- as well as let the community have an outlet while it is down, but when people start spending the majority of their time discussing Carl's drug use and things like that it gets a little tiring.

Caring about Plastic is not the same as caring about Carl. Many posters to Plastic don't even know that there is a Carl. To them its just a website, and frankly, that's how it should be.

5:51 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What addiction...?

6:00 AM

 
Blogger David Flores said...

Is there a reason why almost everybody is posting anonymously?

8:39 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl as an individual and his personality quirks and whatever is none of your business, unless Carl wants it to be any of your business, which he doesn't. That, however, doesn't mean Plastic isn't any of our business.

Dey is one an de SAME!

8:48 AM

 
Anonymous maml said...


That's the typical answer dispensed by all the carl idolators and plastic addicts. "Waah, you don't care about carl. You don't love the same web site I do. So STFU." Yes, this completely mature attitude is what plastic thrives on and the reason it has become a den of inbred morons like you.


So... Why are you here?

11:03 AM

 
Anonymous tomc said...

If morons are going to inbreed, then the den would probably be the best place to do it.

11:13 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone sum up this talk of carl's addiction? I feel bad for him, but being addicted to [whatever] isn't an excuse for bad behavior. It's a reason, not an excuse. I think what is offensive is the lies- oh, carl's mentally ill, carl's broke, carl's marriage is in trouble, cut him some slack. And now it turns out he's a fucking addict!?!

Fooey. I think it's over now.

12:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put up your own site. Plastic will be better without you.

So far as we know, carl is on prescription medication. He made a joke about opiates, and now the assholes we don't need in our lives are passing judgement.

But somehow or other, as good as they are, they can't manage to do anything except troll.

1:46 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that what Carl-fellating buttfucks like the douche who posted at 1:46 PM are (accidentally) correct: someone SHOULD create a new website. One that is run by an intelligent, mature adult who knows the meaning of the word "Responsibility" and who doesn't hide behind bullshit excuses when things go wrong. "WAHH WAHH I'M ADDICTED WAHH WAHH I'M POOR SEND ME MONEY UNGRATEFUL ASSHOLES" STFU CARL YOU WORTHLESS ASSMONKEY!! Nobody with a brain wants to hear your whining! Seriously. Please. Someone *else* start a new website on the plastic.com model, but without all the fucktardery. Thanks.

6:08 PM

 
Anonymous 90 percent of people here said...

Mr Blog Owner,

With all due respect, what's your problem? The only value this site has is its coverage of the plastic outage. If you're so hard up for discussion of world events, why don't you start another blog called "WHILE waiting for plastic" and blather away? Or...go to one of the dozens of other topical forums on the internet.

Seriously, friend, it was a wonderful thing you've done by signing up for a blogger account, but why don't you let people do their thing?

8:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 6:08pm, get on it, nothing is stopping you except your own feebleness.

9:37 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AI from 8:41, that's what this thread is for, no? The problem was simply that the last thread was reserved for QLs. There were plenty of other threads to post to if one wanted to discuss Plastic. In fact, all other threads on this blog concerned that subject.

It's not true that this blog must be about meta issues only. It serves as a temporary gathering place for Plasticians, and as such can serve any purpose gathering Plasticians might have -- such as sharing links and discussing stories.

12:16 AM

 
Anonymous thefadd said...

AI from 6:08pm -- can you code? Because I have 1900 gigs of unused bandwidth per month.

10:30 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thefadd, really? why?

6:04 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carl don’t care about black people!

6:55 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come back baby!
I’m sorry…
I won’t hit you ever again.
I’ll change I promise.
Just come back.

6:58 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't visited this sight for a couple days and now it's about what? Carl's addiction? WTF is going on? If Carl needs help, bygod, let's help! Certainly no shame in that! Is this why the site is down? What did I miss??? Can anyone explain to those of us who missed a few days of the crisis and is willing to explain?

7:27 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thefadd: anonymous 6:08pm can't code, or he wouldn't be here trolling.

10:01 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:01 PM, nobody's trolling but you, dumbass. As for Carl et al, I hope somebody steals plastic.com right out from under him. Hopefully John Hawkins of rightwingnews.com or Michelle Malkin. Now THAT would be delicious revenge on you libtards.

12:28 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:27, the news is that Carl doesn't have an addiction, and even if he did he wouldn't want to talk about it, and even if he did want to talk about he wouldn't want your help.

And I'm not being snarky. To the best of my knowledge, that's really the way it is. So let's just leave the guy alone. Plastic is dead by now anyway.

6:02 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i heard he is addicted to candy corn.
an owl told me…
AND OWLS DON’T LIE!!!!

9:02 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the owl also showed me this site today
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it made me chuckle…
silly owl.

9:09 AM

 
Anonymous thefadd said...

Anonymous said...

thefadd, really? why?

6:04 PM


Because my hosting company ads bandwidth and hosting space to my account each month and I have been with them virtually forever. If I were to give it up, I'd never get it back anywhere near the rate I have so it's worth the monthly fee of holding on to it until I do more with it. In the meantime, what I'm paying is worth to me what I'm using it for.

If I gave up my day job, I could commit myself to learning the code it would take to make the various sites I have ideas for but then I'd be sleeping on the kitchen floor and living off lima beans like carl ;-)

11:55 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goodbye Plastic.com
Though I only posted trolls
You had the grace to hold yourself
While those around you crawled
They crawled out of the woodwork
And they whispered into your brain
They set you on the treadmill
And forty thou they drained

And it seems to me you run your site
like a windows sysadmin
never knowing when to reboot
or where the lead plugs in
And I would have liked to help
but I don't give a shit
Carl Steadman burned out long before
Plastic ever did.

Loneliness was tough
The toughest role you ever played
Internet created a superstar
And pain was the price you paid
Even when you died
Karma whores still hounded you
All the blogs had to say
Was that Carl doesn't know what to do

Goodbye Plastic.com
From the biggest troll in top karma list
Who sees you as something as more than discussion
More than just a karma fix

4:53 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thefadd: no, I can't code; I was just venting. *Sniff* I MISS YOU PLASTIC!! And as for the jerk who suggested the site be taken over by Michelle Malkin, I'd rather see it become a scat porn portal first! The LAST thing the world needs is another neocon hate site.

9:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Simple Human Decency

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1:10 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it's been almost three weeks since the site went down and close to a week since carl has surfaced with any info on what has been going on. This current outage, combined with the previous two weeks outage, means that plastic.com has been down for close to a month and a half of this year.

I think it's time to stop fooling ourselves that it's ever coming back. For whatever reason, either just burn out or lack of funds or lack of caring, carl has pulled the plug on the site. I'll always think fondly of the site and the numerous personalities who frequented the place. I don't even hold any animus towards carl. What he does with his life and with the web site he owned 100 percent is his business. I do have a certain amount of regret that he didn't find it within himself to be open and above board and just give us the reasons for this. But, the entire notion of carl sharing his reasons for much of anything would be totally uncarl, wouldn't it.

Plastic.com, you had a hell of a run. A totally advertising-free corner of the internet where people could log on and discuss and learn about what's going on. I'll miss you.

4:17 AM

 
Anonymous AdipicAcid said...

I have to agree. Even chat is a wasteland at this point. It looks like it went out with the proverbial whimper.

5:29 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks like it went out with the proverbial whimper.

and just as the world cup was starting too. Damn it!

9:52 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... someone SHOULD create a new website. One that is run by an intelligent, mature adult who knows the meaning of the word "Responsibility" and who doesn't hide behind bullshit excuses when things go wrong.

[KOFF! /]:

http://metafilter.com/

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10:51 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHAT IS DOWN!

Is this the end? June 8, 2006.

8:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

carl's last words:

Connecting to chat.plastic.com

*** An error occured: Connecting to server: Connection refused connecting to 66.92.5.85:7003

8:08 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe I'm not the only one who came here to see if someone had anything to say about chat going down. You plastic obsessed folks are CRRRAZY. That, and Jojo is such a... girl. Like 15 years old.

8:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...glurp...

8:18 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, and I resent saying that about Jojo 'cause she's alright. The Zodiac thing is kind of weird... but she's cool.

8:19 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's something totally uninteresting about a little girl who pulls up her skirt after every other comment.

8:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well then, there it goes. What's next?

8:21 PM

 
Anonymous tomc said...

I suppose this is the new plastic chat.

8:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now what happens?

8:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So uh... what's up? I hope the chat comes back up soon.

8:29 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought it was just my trolling as Jason Grimsley that did it. I guess this is the end.

8:33 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought your trolling was pretty funny, fwiw. I do wonder if the chat will ever come back but it hasn't been gone that long so I'm not sure it's the right time to proclaim this the end, however.

8:35 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, now? I say we get all weepy, like a sad drunk, and talk about how Plastic never really understood us anyway.

8:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Metafilter, huh, 10:51 AM? Well, I'll give it a shot, it's better than me hanging around here whining about Carl/plastic/et al.

9:14 PM

 
Anonymous tomc said...

It may be premature to mourn, but there's no such thing as a premature drink!

9:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Metafilter's alright but it costs $5 to register and it's nothing like Plastic...

9:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No tomc, but there are drink related premature babies!

9:24 PM

 
Anonymous maml said...

Man, even the chat. Bugger all!

10:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's something totally uninteresting about a little girl who pulls up her skirt after every other comment.

You've never heard JoJo riff on immigration or science or French writers.

If she's for real, she's funny and intelligent, or pretends to be as well as any plastician.

If not, I wish she were.

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Leave ms_sue alone, she has reason to be bitter.

Yes, well...being a dried-up fruit with excessively high regard of one's own importance will do that to a person.

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